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October 2010
An Interview with J. Michael Tuchek, DO
How the field of cardiovascular surgery is changing in light of new technology and its ever-increasing coordination with interventional cardiology.
How would you describe the evolution of the cardiovascular
surgeon in treating patients via minimally
invasive means?
The minimally invasive evolution began some 20
years ago with cardiovascular surgeons being appropriately
skeptical. A big surgery requires a big incision and
that is how we were trained. There is
very little margin for error in open
heart surgery, and thus we equated
access to safety and optimal outcomes;
the better the access, the better
the outcomes. At that time, this
dogma was pretty accurate. The
technology simply was not there to
treat heart patients via a small incision.
As laparoscopic technology
improved, our patients had observed
these successes in other fields and
thus CV surgeons were dragged to
the minimally invasive altar kicking and screaming.
Minimally invasive direct coronary artery bypass grafting and other less invasive technologies began to develop. When Heartport (formerly Heartport, Inc., now a private subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, New Brunswick, NJ) hit the market in the mid 1990s, patients wanted it, and administrators demanded it to stay competitive with other hospitals. Some of us embraced at least one of the first truly minimally invasive technologies that could be used to perform mitral repair/replacement, aortic valve surgery, and even coronary artery bypass grafting. But it was hard to use and not universally adopted.
Simultaneously, angioplasty and stenting took the world by storm. Cardiac surgeons were initially resistant; however, during the past 15 years, cardiac surgeons had begun pushing the envelope with a variety of less invasive technologies including robotics. The results of these new technologies were varied, and for data-driven heart surgeons, the changes were met with justifiable resistance. Any technique that is not equal to or surpassed the accepted maximally invasive results is subject to at least healthy skepticism—which I believe is good. I believe that our skepticism is fueled by conflicting data surrounding other technologies such as stents, which in many studies failed to show clear benefit over coronary bypass grafting for patients with three-vessel disease, left main disease, low ejection fraction, and diabetes, which are most of our patients these days. However, stents continue to be the mainstay of treatment for coronary artery disease. Stent technology too is an ever-evolving technology.
What are some of the practical issues
of balancing your surgical and interventional
practices?
One of the reasons that I am so
involved in TAVI (transcatheter aortic
valve implantation) is because of my
interventional practice. As I finished my
general surgery residency, I saw my
attendings try to perform laparoscopic cholecystectomy
procedures, which seemed relatively simple. In
short, the younger generation arcade junkies could do it
and the older generation struggled. I also saw the interventional
train coming down the track with percutaneous
angioplasty and stents, and I believed I should
hitch a ride. However, I had no training to do so at that
time.
I partnered with my senior mentors who were all doing open valve procedures. I volunteered to be the venous and arterial access guy to get the Heartport equipment in place. That was my first learning environment for catheter wire skills. It positioned me for the endovascular stent graft revolution that took place a few years later. I then partnered with an interventional radiologist who was involved with a large cardiology group. I hung around the catheterization lab at night, assisting whatever I could, if only to learn the names of all these crazy catheters and wires that I was totally unfamiliar with. As the stent graft market exploded, so did my abdominal aortic aneurysm (AAA) practice at Cardiac Surgery Associates in Chicago. We are at 25 hospitals in several states including one of the academic centers in Chicago, so I received many referrals from varied sources including my own partners.
This arrangement allowed me to be a leading enroller in several abdominal and thoracic stent graft trials during the last decade. The natural extension of this was to expand my practice to a greater variety of catheterbased technologies. I started in the groin initially and worked my way proximally through the abdominal aorta, thoracic aorta, and ultimately to the aortic valve (TAVI) back to doing open heart surgery, but now all via that initial groin incision—I had come full circle. Balancing my interventional and surgical practices is not easy, but it is a great problem to have because I am busy doing both. I have not limited myself to one or the other.
What tips would you offer CV surgeons who are aiming
to add more interventional components to their
practice?
There are a number of programs for surgeons who
wish to increase their interventional footprint.
Medtronic (Medtronic, Inc., Minneapolis, MN), for
example, sponsors an academia aortic boot camp that
helps you sharpen your interventional minimally invasive
skills. It directly educates heart surgeons using various
didactic and hands-on workshops. This type of program
is available at almost every national meeting.
There are also 1:1 programs that allow you to work with
and observe experienced surgeons who do a lot of
interventions. If cardiac surgeons take the time to learn
these techniques now, they will have plenty of time to
succeed in the future. Otherwise, they are going to be
left behind by the next generation of hybrid surgeons or
structural heart interventionists. They must get engaged
now, and how they do it is up to them, but the tools are
there: the simulation suites, courses, hands-on programs,
networking, Internet, and even videos. There are
enough programs available so that they can get up to
speed quickly and succeed in using these new technologies
in their practices.
Can you tell me about some of the devices that you
have developed or are currently working on?
I have been fortunate to be on the front end of this
new technological wave since my Heartport days, and I
have worked with a lot of bright people in the medical
industry. I recently shared in one of the patents for
Medtronic's next generation of percutaneous valves. I
have been working on that project for the last several
years, even before CoreValve was purchased. I spend a lot of time working on different solutions to various
aortic problems, including bare-metal stent technology
in dissections. Some of that technology is being investigated
in Europe right now. I worked on fenestrated
devices for arch pathology, and a few of these companies
are developing branch devices specifically based on
some of the work of heart surgeons experienced in
endovascular therapies. I had been doing a lot of
research with CardioMEMS pressure sensors
(CardioMEMS, Inc. Atlanta, GA), which I use to follow
all of my AAA patients, and it is now being evaluated
for use in treating heart failure.
I think a lot of the designs and techniques that we use for abdominal and thoracic stents have helped us learn that it is not so much the destination but the journey getting there. Our experience in using AAA and thoracic stent graft technology has helped us get to the aortic valve for TAVI, and now we are using many of these same delivery system concepts that we developed for stent grafts and applying them to percutaneous valves. It is a natural extension.
What are some of the device trials that you are currently
enrolled in and are there any that you are particularly
excited to see the results of?
Because our practice is so far reaching, my ability to
enroll in trials is equally broad. In all of these trials, there
were only a few cardiovascular surgeons participating,
yet they were consistently the largest enrollers in every
one of the abdominal and thoracic stent graft trials,
which says a lot about our catheter wire skills and our
overall presence in the endovascular marketplace.
Cardiac surgeons still have a lot to offer in the catheter
wire dominated realm of abdominal and thoracic stent
grafting. The Medtronic Endurant device will probably
be approved in the very near future, and I am especially
proud to be involved in that trial because it will be a
game-changing stent graft that was built from the
ground up using everything we have learned from years
of various stent graft implants and designs. Medtronic
took what was best about its previous devices, techniques,
and technologies, and put them into the
Endurant device. It has one of the smallest device outer
profiles, but it can expand up to 36 mm in diameter. It is the most flexible and has the most
active fixation on the market, which
should all but eliminate migration. I
suspect that it will dominate all other
grafts as it seems to be doing in
Europe.
I am also excited to get the CoreValve (Medtronic, Inc.) trial started and get updates about the PARTNER trial from Edwards (Edwards Lifesciences, Irvine, CA). Hopefully that will not be too far down the road because it is long overdue that we get several percutaneous valve technologies on the market (Sapien). Edwards Lifesciences just finished their enrollment and announced some of their initial results, and CoreValve is going to be starting soon. These technologies are going to make a cataclysmic splash for doctors and most importantly patients. We are going to be treating very high-risk patients who otherwise would simply not be treated.
I don't know how the trial results will ultimately compare to the standard valve treatments that we have today (which have great 20-year results), but it is going to be a fascinating journey to see the new technological advances that will spring from these first-generation percutaneous TAVI devices. TAVI technologies will be a game changer. This singular lightening rod technology will divide or galvanize CV surgeons as a specialty. It may define our very specialty. Unlike most minimally invasive heart surgery, which has been an iteration on a theme, small incremental improvements in technology and techniques, TAVI is a truly disruptive technology. It may by its very nature turn standard open heart surgery on its head. How cardiac surgeons embrace (or fight) this technology will define their practice, their reputations, the way they train future heart surgeons, and how they take care of patients in the future. Its overall impact cannot be underestimated.
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